Model Comparison

Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) vs DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)

Compare the listed model data for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) by Qwen and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) by DeepSeek. Benchmark and pricing records are not a controlled test and may change.

Data last updated: 2026-10-16. Verify current model details with each provider.

What the listed data says

Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25): 128K tokens; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28): 128K tokens. The listed context-window values are equal. Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) is listed for coding, reasoning, long-context tasks; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) is listed for coding, reasoning, long-context tasks. Shared catalog benchmark entries: AIME 2025: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 87.0%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 87.5%; LiveCodeBench: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 72.5%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 69.5%. These records are reference data, not a controlled head-to-head test; verify current pricing and specifications with each provider.

Catalog source links

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Computed differences from catalog data

  • The listed context windows are 128K tokens and 128K tokens; the larger is 1× the smaller.
  • On shared numeric benchmark entries, AIME 2025: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) − DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) = -0.5 percentage points (87.0% vs 87.5%); LiveCodeBench: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) − DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) = +3 percentage points (72.5% vs 69.5%).
  • The first listed parameter quantities are 235B total (22B active) and 671B total (37B active via MoE); the larger quantity is 2.86× the smaller. Total and active MoE parameters are not directly equivalent.
  • The catalog release dates are July 2025 and May 28, 2025, about 2 months apart at the precision supplied.

Cost example: 1M input and 1M output tokens

Using only the catalog's listed per-million-token rates, 1M input plus 1M output tokens costs about $2.3 for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and $2.74 for DeepSeek-R1 (May 28). This excludes provider-specific discounts, caching, and other fees.

Choose Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) if…

Choose Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) when your task aligns with catalog-listed uses or strengths such as Frontier reasoning tasks with July 2025 improvements, Improved thinking mode with July 2025 update, Elite mathematical and reasoning benchmarks, Apache 2.0.

Choose DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) if…

Choose DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) when your task aligns with catalog-listed uses or strengths such as Software engineering tasks requiring real-world code changes, Competition mathematics at AIME/Olympiad level, Drop-in improvement wherever R1 was previously used, Significant improvement over original R1 — SWE-bench 49.2% → 57.6%.

Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25)

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Thinking-mode Qwen3-235B — always uses extended chain-of-thought. Best for math olympiad problems, scientific reasoning, and agentic tasks.

Parameters: 235B total (22B active)

Context: 128K tokens

Catalog pricing: Apache 2.0 — free

Qwen Coding · Reasoning · Long Context Open Source

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DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)

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May 2025 update to DeepSeek-R1 — improved reasoning depth, better code generation, and enhanced benchmark scores.

Parameters: 671B total (37B active via MoE)

Context: 128K tokens

Catalog pricing: MIT open source. DeepSeek API: ~$0.55/MTok input, $2.19/MTok output

DeepSeek Coding · Reasoning · Long Context Open Source

View DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) model profile

Feature Comparison — Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) vs DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)

Catalog specifications for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)
Specification Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)
Provider Qwen DeepSeek
Parameters 235B total (22B active) 671B total (37B active via MoE)
Context window 128K tokens 128K tokens
Maximum output Not listed Not listed
Catalog pricing Apache 2.0 — free MIT open source. DeepSeek API: ~$0.55/MTok input, $2.19/MTok output
Listed input/output cost per 1M tokens input $0.8, output $1.5 per 1M tokens input $0.55, output $2.19 per 1M tokens
License Apache 2.0 MIT
Coding support Listed Listed
Reasoning support Listed Listed
Vision input Not listed Not listed
Multimodal Not listed Not listed
Open weights Yes Yes
Benchmark: AIME 2025 87.0% 87.5%
Benchmark: LiveCodeBench 72.5% 69.5%

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is different between Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)?
Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25): 128K tokens; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28): 128K tokens. The listed context-window values are equal. Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) is listed for coding, reasoning, long-context tasks; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) is listed for coding, reasoning, long-context tasks. Shared catalog benchmark entries: AIME 2025: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 87.0%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 87.5%; LiveCodeBench: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 72.5%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 69.5%. These records are reference data, not a controlled head-to-head test; verify current pricing and specifications with each provider.
What benchmark values are listed for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)?
AIME 2025: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 87.0%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 87.5%; LiveCodeBench: Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) 72.5%; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) 69.5%. The catalog values may use different versions and evaluation setups, so they are reference points rather than a controlled head-to-head result.
Which model has the larger listed context window?
Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25): 128K tokens; DeepSeek-R1 (May 28): 128K tokens. The listed context-window values are equal.
What are the listed costs per million tokens for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)?
Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25): input $0.8, output $1.5 per 1M tokens (Apache 2.0 — free). DeepSeek-R1 (May 28): input $0.55, output $2.19 per 1M tokens (MIT open source. DeepSeek API: ~$0.55/MTok input, $2.19/MTok output). Where separate numeric input and output rates are available, the worked example uses 1M input plus 1M output tokens. Confirm current terms with each provider.
How far apart are the listed release dates for Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)?
The catalog lists Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) as July 2025 and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28) as May 28, 2025, about 2 months apart at the precision supplied.
When was the comparison data last updated?
The model catalog records 2026-10-16 as its data update date. Provider specifications and prices may have changed since then.
How should I choose between Qwen3 235B Thinking (Jul 25) and DeepSeek-R1 (May 28)?
Compare the listed specifications and capabilities, review the benchmark notes, then test both with the same representative prompt for your task. This page does not claim a universal winner.

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